Jackson: Greetings from the Oʻahu Church of Christ, my name is Jackson Cheng and I want to thank you for joining us in this podcast series “Refined by Fire” which looks at the apostle Peter's spiritual journey. A couple of things that I’m trying to achieve in this podcast is one, to do a character study. Another part that I think is a goal out of this is to look at Peter’s spiritual journey and hopefully by looking at his life it will inspire our faith so that we can grow more. As a third goal, kind of introducing different members and getting to know them as we go through the podcast so that's why I have different guests come on. So, with me today, really excited, I have my wife Sunah with me. And we have a great family friend of ours, Kristen Moux.
Kristen: Yes, thank you. Thank you so much for having me.
Jackson: Yeah, it's great to be able to get together and you know, see face-to-face after all this isolation stuff. So, Sunah why don’t you tell us a little bit about yourself?
Sunah: Well I’ve been a disciple for 28 years and we’ve been married for 22 blissful years of course. And we have two children: Samuel who is 15 years old and Hannah who is 14 years old and I’m just happy to be here.
Kristen: Thanks, Sunah. So, I’m Kristin and let’s see…I’m about to be a disciple for three years in September, so very new. Still a baby. I’m a wife to my husband Jimmy. We have three kids together, Taylor who is 10, Payton is 8 and Riley is our baby who is about 1 and a half now. I’m a wedding planner and my husband is a general contractor and pretty much we’ve or I’ve lived here almost all my life.
Jackson: Good to have you guys with me. Let’s jump right on in, the theme scripture for this series is from 1 Peter 1:3 it says, “Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade. This inheritance is kept in heaven for you, who through faith are shielded by God’s power until the coming of the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time. In all this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while you may have had to suffer grief in all kinds of trials. These have come so that the proven genuineness of your faith—of greater worth than gold, which perishes even though refined by fire—may result in praise, glory and honor when Jesus Christ is revealed. Though you have not seen him, you love him; and even though you do not see him now, you believe in him and are filled with an inexpressible and glorious joy, for you are receiving the end result of your faith, the salvation of your souls.”
I love this scripture. First Peter is dated towards the end of Peter's life, shortly before is executed in Rome, according to church tradition. This passages is very fitting for us today especially with the pandemic and all the different things are going on around us that you know to be able to remember that you know that we will have trials and we will go through troubles but if we preserve, our faith will grow and ultimately that faith will give us hope of one day receiving salvation for our souls. Looking forward to heaven. Even though we may go through hardships now it’s always good to keep that in perspective.
So, our last podcast looked at overcoming doubts. It’s interesting because we’re looking at Peter and how he started walking on the water right, and after that he began to doubt. I would think it’s the other way around— he overcame doubt and then he started walking on the water. This is all tied to the whole theme of this spiritual blindness that we talked about in the first podcast in the series and how faith is about what we don’t see but sometimes what we do see or perhaps how we see things is what hinders our faith and that’s what we’re are going to look at. So today, we are looking at overcoming worldliness. So, what is the first thing that comes to mind when I say a person is worldly?
Kristen: For me when I think of a person being worldly I’m thinking of being concerned with our own image. You know what we think society will see and value in us, or that we have, the things that we own, and being concerned with what the world would be concerned with, you know not something that God would be concerned with but what the world would be concerned with.
Sunah: That’s good. I think for me, the first thing that pops into my head is money, the love of money and materialism and how we look to other people like pleasing people versus pleasing God. You know pleasing God is not really in the picture. Yeah, so that’s what I think.